The question no one seems to have asked: does Leahy think he can preside over the trial as a 'neutral' judge and then vote to convict as a member of the Senate? Could Roberts, as an interested party with standing, submit the question to the Supreme Court for a ruling? Now you want to piss on his grave. A pair of Michigan lawmakers were caught on camera drinking late into the night at the Trump International Hotel hours after a controversial White House meeting with President Donald Trump. and the Senate can try the targeted individual?That's a Bill of Attainder. That's clear. Itâs time to be cynical. Also, isn’t Trump still claiming he’s the rightful holder of the office of President? Patrick Leahy is a partisan democrat! "I wonder what the anti-Trump Senators really want? I would guess that Eddie was an A student in school.And does that concept have any application now? Just like the hyper-partisan Ukraine impeachment was. As the Articles of Impeachment themselves show, Trump is charged precisely as president. Leave him alone. What is to prevent them from IMPEACHING HIM AGAIN in 2022 or 2024? "This suggests an interesting question. "Shall" == "must" == "required"You can not remove someone from office if they aren't in it2: An "Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States" is an appointed office, not an elected one.The claimed purpose of this impeachment is to keep Trump from running for President again. And his wife, for being actual President while not elected which is somewhat like being a past President. I didn’t expect them to lower the bar for conducting trials of former officials in Congress. Thanks Achilles. I would put nothing by the Obama administration that lives and rules by the Chicago thug playbook. "The removal from office and the lifetime bar are separate and independent of one another. "For buffoons like Mitt Romney, and for each of the Democrats -- each and every one of them corrupt bad-faith actors -- who will vote in lockstep against Trump regardless of the law or facts, that's the real charge and the only one that matters to them. Makes sense."LOL. Reagan before them. Especially the mocking part. Makes sense. What I have not heard is a single affirmative explanation of how an impeachment of a President, that is not President, could be impeached.We impeach an office holder. He threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power, and imperiled a coequal branch of Government. But the questions he asks will not be his. I do not want…, I guess folks in Long Beach will just have to get their vegetables at the licker stor…, If Biden, Schumer, Pelosi and their liberal colleagues, think that China will reward them richly for helping them take over…, Squirt gun ban for kids? Trump should announce plans to run for senate in '22, prez in '24. Or, even better, just go home and let us all get by. Fox News Channel unveiled an overhaul of its daytime lineup on Monday, including the switch of Martha MacCallumâs The Story from its 7 PM slot to 3 PM ET, while chief White House corresponden⦠The first is whether Trump is guilty. "It seems so unfair to have Leahy presiding"Now they've done it: Althouse gives up cruel neutrality. We don't confuse anything. I also agree with Reynolds that this should be dragged out as long as possible, to make these assholes look the stupid assholes they are in TV and to suck the air out of anything else. They know that to beat him in 2024 they would have to be even more obvious in their fraud.They know that we are not going to let them count votes in dark hidey holes again. If the reason the Chief Justice is the judge is because it would be a conflict of interest for the President’s Vice President to be the judge then why couldn’t Kamala Harris be the judge? He's been using his own security along with the Secret Service for four years, and can easily do without the latter, as he did for many years before he was elected, so he's not necessarily being subsidized in that way. The democrats' attempt to impeach Donald Trump has the same legal status as would be the case if the democrats' impeached Tucker Carlson. No Trumpkin has presented here a cogent argument either way on the issue. And old Pat Leahy, who's been in DC almost as long as Muttering Joe, gets to be the face of it. Tim @6:09AM. It was reported earlier today by anonymous sources to The Hill that Senate Democrats didn't even ask the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to preside over the trial. IANAL, or even a Canadian, but even I can see that there IS NO TRIAL WITHOUT THE CHIEF JUSTICE.Leave aside that Leahy is the hack's hack and always has been, if they proceed it's just more confirmation that the helm is in the hands of self-absorbed nincompoops who make it up as they stumble along.NarrAnd with that, to bed. can the senators mail in their votes and let the D count them. Trump's attorneys will not offer a defense against the pathetically weak charge of inciting insurrection. They're going to get together and declare him guilty and try to bar him from ever running for office again. The Democrats will lie and cheat to get the results they want. Who or what could stop him, and how? In his conduct while President of the United States — and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, provide, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed — Donald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence against the Government of the United States, in that:. The next month, Roberts once again joined his fellow travelers on the left to allow abortion clinics in Louisiana to operate without the backup of an emergency room for injured women. His medical insurance?President Trump can probably get by without the pension and the insurance.But withdrawing his Secret Service protection will be an invitation to some psycho (see Antifa mugshots) to murder him. Why is Sen. Leahy doing it? PHOTOS: Northeast gets ⦠why isn't anyone thinking of the PRECESDENT this is setting! BTW, its funny how everyone, especially the News Media, starts with the assumption that every fucking Democrat will vote guilty - no matter what. 2020-01-30 This state wants to buck the trend and keep their plastic straws and bags Texit: Why and How Texas Will Leave The Union [Miller, Daniel, Griffing, John] on Amazon.com. To bad for said schmuck, the riot was planned in the weeks leading up to January 6th. Why even go through the pretense of a "Trial" ? seek to remove GA Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from committees over political beliefs, Black Lives Matter nominated for politicized Nobel peace prize, Updated: Newsmax anchor walks off set after trying to stop Mike Lindell talking about election fraud instead of Twitter censorship, The Inevitable Descent Into Despotic Leftist Insanity, McConnell Steps Into House GOP Conflict by Backing Liz Cheney, In dramatic video Ocasio-Cortez says she is survivor of sexual assault. How can the rest of the House & Senate go along with these things? Nearing 80 and need a trip to the Casino! Beats putting GW on trial. He has been senile since the second Clinton inauguration. Five days after The President's term ended.That's a cogent explanation. Blogger D.D. The Article of impeachment was not executed until tonight. Has anyone thought to ask him?Recusing could make it harder to get to 2/3rds. The fact that they were banned even under state law reflects the importance that the Framers attached to this issue. Surely the Senate's power to disqualify cannot be so easily evaded? I suppose if the left can make up some bullshit 'Office of the President Elect,' they can make up some bullshit 'Office of the Former President' and convict on those grounds.They're making up everything else. "and it's going to look hyper-partisan to people"See, if only they hadn't been so foolish, and hadn't picked that a***ole Leahy, it would have looked so much better. 1: Constitution – Article II, Section 4. Mark is correct. Trump can still be removed from the Office of Former President, if currently holding an office is a requirement for an impeachment trial - and there is no requirement in the Constitution that it be an important office as opposed to an honorary one. It’s a source of amusement that Trumpkins routinely live down to the worst stereotype of ignorant bigots and yet demand respect. Pelosi Cites 25th Amendment to Remove Trump from Office, ALERT!! Unfortunately, it means that impeachment is a purely political act, and every impeachment thus far has been political. That also provides a foundation for an argument that there is now no occasion for a trial of impeachment — impeachment is a procedure for removing the President — and it is an abuse of power for the Senate to try the former President, deprived of the safeguard of the Chief Justice as a neutral arbiter. This was passed by the House with 2 hours debate and only 10 R's voting for it. Claim: A photo shows Chief Justice John Roberts swimming with Bill Clinton on Jeffrey Epstein's private island. That's not ducking and it's not skipping. Can you get a fair trial when your adversary is in charge of the military occupation of the court room? Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper put a social distancing spin on their broadcast after-party this New Year's. Maybe that's par of what the anti-Trump Senators really want?Probably, but they don't seem to understand the effect that might have on his supporters.YH is right, they've all gone insane. . On the merits, what exactly is charged?1. Tangle is up for four glorious years of litigation, that at least drives the news cycle. I'd like to put it on the front page. No trial, no need for the Chief Justice. ""Checkmate.Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States, can run to become the 47th in 2024, should he so choose. Amazing that they got the text of the Constitution wrong.The Article of Impeachment has been delivered to the Senate. So that must mean that Leahy did not interpret Article I, Section 3 to exclude the Chief Justice, and I would argue that must mean that there cannot be a trial. Also a no-no under our Constitution. So, is CNN lying? Doubt me? I understand why Trump opponents want to proceed against him anyway, but I don't think it will go very well for them. "Will Leahy be costumed in his horned animal skin shaman outfit? Actress Tanya Roberts, who played a role as a Bond girl in âA View to a Kill,â has died at 65 after collapsing at her home. So no impeachment. Can you say fraudulent? His staff? Shouldn’t Sen. Leahy also be the prosecutor and defense attorney? "They want to convey that even if they push you out of your job, they'll decide when they're done with you. Remembering more examples of Democrat incivility, Kamala Harris: Family Benefits & Setting Off Joe Manchin, Coming for you? By CNN Newsource. On a purely legal level, the best move would be to pass a resolution instructing Roberts to try the case, right? Former President Donald Trumpâs five impeachment defense attorneys have left a little more than a week before his trial is set to begin, ⦠Anything in the Constitution that prohibits the Senate from play acting? It's a trick: they'll remove a president from office, let Biden see it on TV, and he'll take the train back to Wilmington. The law is clear.The Constitution is clear.The facts are clear.But don't expect the blowhards of the U.S. Senate to pay attention to any of that.Frankly, the House could have saved itself a lot of time in wording its Article of Impeachment. It follows that the President, who is an elected official, is not an "officer of the United States.". We are in for some high comedy. Roberts refusal to preside means that he believes he is not required to preside.He’s also not required to administer the oath of office to the president.Yet it has done it four times.Maybe Leahy can administer the oath of office in four years. We must exercise judgment and do justice. The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. ... Leave a Reply Cancel reply. jaydub said...I'm waiting for the Canadian ruling from Ken B. If Trump is elected to be POTUS, he serves for a life, because he can't be a Former President. It makes sense to Left Bank (apparently).Will history books be prohibited from discussingPresident Trump, Left Bank? The next is whether there can be a trial. That's not surprising, but it leaves us to puzzle out the meaning. The Dems will never leave Trump alone.After Trump is dead and buried, they will dig up his body and desecrate it by dragging it behind a chariot racing around Capitol Hill. Then again, not necessarily: if absolutely every eligible senator shows up and votes, 66 out of 99 without Leahy is just as easy to reach as 67 out of 100 with Leahy. It is a limited slate of officials. Simple. Nice to know some things never change. See what I did there? If we’re paying him, we can impeach him. Left bank:" If we’re paying him, we can impeach him. I am a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for me to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The popular girls club doesn't like ex president Trump. (I believe art 1 sec 6? Fox News chief White House correspondent John Roberts was angry after Kayleigh McEnany refused to denounce white supremacists despite being pressed. Kutcher, 42, replied to a tweet Grace wrote believing the show's Tanya Roberts ⦠Why it matters: ... Everyone endorsing this process of using an impeachment against someone after they leave office is endorsing an endless tit for tat based upon which political party holds power. If he sought Roberts's participation, then he thought it was Roberts's role. It’s all a matter of inference. Senate Dems will refer to the constitution. It would be interesting to know what Roberts thinks about these things, but I can't even tell if Roberts was involved in the decision to leave it to Leahy. I'm waiting for the Canadian ruling from Ken B. I also realize that she is "Queen of Canada". Olivia Newton-John âFeeling Greatâ 3 Years After Cancer Diagnosis â and Looking Forward to Daughter's Wedding â âI feel very blessed,â Olivia Newton-John tells PEOPLE in a joint interview with her daughter, Chloe Lattanzi, for their new duet âWindow in the Wallâ â Olivia Newton-John has a lot to look forward to in 2021. Democrats will call any defense of Trump at this "trial" sedition. They intend to kneel on the necks of the Deplorables and impose their socialist paradise on all of us.I suppose some will find it boring. Donald Trump is now a private citizen. However, the Court would be likely to hear a case brought by Trump against some hapless state official who bars him from the ballot in 2024. How many government employees have been made to feel bad by something Trump said about them. "If an official resigns literally while the Senate is voting on the question of their conviction--but before the vote is completed--must the vote be abandoned and the Senate has lost the power to disqualify? Everyone who has supported and voted for people like Mitt Romney in the past needs to understand they were wrong and they supported cowards and traitors. Ambassador to French Guiana? The plot thickens... Our bettors do not even understand the basic language in the Constitution. I was thinking abuse is when you use the power you have for illegal or unconstitutional ends. I can already see that deer in the headlights look. That is to twist logic beyond all reason. 2020-01-30 John Roberts will not be silent Wednesday. With Roberts bowing out, and an "impartial" Leahy taking his place, this latest impeachment exercise is straight out of Karl Marx: "History repeats itself: first as tragedy, second as farce." "So, the idea is that Trump can no longer be a former president. Trump is out of office. Dems offend the nice women of America at their peril. . How can Trump get a fair trial, when Leahy will preside over it AND vote? It is a farce. Thus, Roberts is the required presiding officer -- presiding long enough to dismiss the entire farce for lack of jurisdiction, given that there is now no "President Trump.". 3 leader. It’s all a matter of inference.Who is being Tried. Delaying until then would give Biden and his gang plenty of rope to demonstrate yet more clearly and irrefutably what tyrannical assholes and pathetic incompetents they all are, so most of the public, including millions of disillusioned Biden voters, will be glad to find that Biden actually lost, and relieved to have Trump back in the White House. They thought up the Ukrainian phone call last year, and they passed this bogus "High Crime" in 2 hours debate. You could respond to my arguments, but you won’t. I think the answer is yes, and gave reasons, Inga gave a link to a longer argument. Issues of such importance should not be left to US courts, laws or citizens.Naaaah. I don’t think you should construe the constitution in a way that makes it incoherent when there is a way to read it as coherent. The article says "Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat and the president pro tempore of the chamber, will preside for Trump's second impeachment trial." It is a fair question whether or not Trump fits the definition of a President who is being tried by the Senate since he is only a former President.The entire 2nd impeachment is a bag of flaming dogshit the Democrats left on the porch of the House and Senate Republicans. they should probably debate this too.for months and months. In short, he's not a federal parasite like other former presidents, which gives the silly impeachers far less power over him. Achilles, you are my favorite example of a self-licking ice cream cone! Over at the Volokh Conspiracy, there are some posts explaining that these two things can both be correct: (1)that the Senate has the constitutional authority to try a former president, but (2) that the Chief Justice can/must preside only over a trial of a current President. They could have limited the charge to simply, "He's Trump. Bauer tells OneNewsNow he can list a number of justices who have drifted left – but not one that has gone the other way. In person learning for children characterized as ‘racism toward Black and Brown families’, Nancy Pelosi Planning a Coup? Where in the Constitution does it say that the Senate has the authority to try private citizens? Pope Formosus did not reply silence, acquiesced. "The Constitution contemplates that the Senate can do two different things when an officer is impeached. Trump could still run for President, because he wasn't impeached from being President, and he could serve 8 years because he's not a Former President. Rules are made so corrupt democrats can abuse them. For instance, a motion for a dismissal? I understand why Trump opponents want to proceed against him anyway, but I don't think it will go very well for them.You are probably right, but I don't care. The Senate must restore sanity to this impeachment process. He isn't going to like this at all. Iâve written about how the mortality rate is below 0,2% , meaning that for most people the risk of dying if you get infected is less than one in 500 (and less than one in 3,000 if youâre ⦠Resolution impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.Resolved, the Donald John Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following article of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:Article of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.ARTICLE 1: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTIONThe Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" and that the President "shall be removed from Office on Impeachment, for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." So, what's to prevent the D's from waiting till 2024, and then impeaching and removing him and forbidding him to run for office? And you might as well take out Thomas and Kavanaugh too. Anything in the Constitution that prohibits the Senate from play acting?The prohibition embodied in this clause is not to be narrowly construed in the context of traditional forms but is to be interpreted in accordance with the designs of the framers so as to preclude trial by legislature, which would violate the separation of powers.1912 The clause thus prohibits all legislative acts, “no matter what their form, that apply either to named individuals or to easily ascertainable members of a group in such a way as to inflict punishment on them without a judicial trial. The latter itself seems problematic since it permits the Senate to supersede the will of the People should they choose to elect the person to office. The question is how many of the Republicans take the bait. have a two hour "debate" and then vote. Constitution – Article I, Section 3, Clause 7 – puts two questions before the Senate when it says, "Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States." If we’re paying him, we can impeach him. I really thought they would stop at lowering the impeachment bar to just passing a bill. Texit: Why and How Texas Will Leave The Union "Office, civil or military, under the United States" refers to appointed positions, not elected ones. His pension? years even. Also, isn’t Trump still claiming he’s the rightful holder of the office of President?" Biskupic writes: Since the US House of Representatives impeached Trump on January 13, Roberts has declined multiple requests for comment on his responsibility, if any, for a trial after Trump left office on January 20. 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