OP, I've also heard that you can pick up a finance job pretty easily with an engineering degree. Accounting: Can literally pick any major city in the US and find a firm hiring. Engineers require a lot of soft skills, interacting with clients, meeting with bosses, presenting information to co workers, meetings after meetings after meetings.. if you removed the word engineer and replaced it with accountant you could expect similar things. I hated it. If you switch to accounting, there's a good chance you'll end up at a Big 4 firm. And almost every night, even during regular season, she'd have to work from home. [–]Pickle_InspectoPhD student biomedical engineering 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), [–]gordogg24p 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child). Like everyone else said, businesses love hiring engineers. I just dont see a passion big enough to get me through the next year and a half of struggles. You'll appreciate that choice far more in the end. Accountants might have a simpler time finding a job just because it's kinda preset what their options are. This varies by state... All the states that I'm aware of (MI, NC, FL, GA) only require 150 credit hours and do not require a masters. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children), "Engineers have an easier time. You will automatically come up with valuable ideas. Accounting, one of the most boring. I live with 2 Chemical Engineers and with 2 weeks to graduation they don't have jobs. Personal attacks are not tolerated. I was mostly relying on loans to get through school. Be substantive. ik it will probably be worth it in the end but right now i am just unhappy so it is difficult to get through these courses with no motivation. If you enjoy making things and want to be able to create something then by all means take this path, but if you want a high ceiling and room for advancement, engineering is not that profession. Engineering, one of the most exciting jobs. It was like a reward for all my hardwork. If you have a high aptitude for math, and think that will give you a leg up among the other accountants, you will be proven wrong. My personal tutor said that Accounting has one of the highest drop-out rates in Universities across the UK due to the combination of how dry it is with the amount of work you have to do. The most effective way for accountants to advance their careers is by attaining a professional certification. When engineers design what percent of the population do they consider? i think i am looking for something easier but the bottom line is im just sick of the grind and the difficulty level just adds to my depression. Accounting and economics both involve plenty of number-crunching. I quit because of depression, which made me even more depressed. Lead-in comments are encouraged to provide context to the readers. I worked in digital marketing as a analyst for several years and it was the most unrewarding job possible. I was just looking forward to my thesis about my lab research which I did voluntarily next to taking classes - this is what kept me going and where I learned stuff that counts, i.e. No posts about the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Ask them about their life back in the day, about their smoking heads in the library, and how they got there where they are now. That should not be a surprise, and counseling will help keep you from getting "surprised" in the future... [–]retsotrembla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). [–]Canadian_Club 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (2 children). I thought I had the potential to succeed in one of those fields, but I saw accounting as a safer bet. I went into Accounting, had most of my undergrad complete, and realized I was getting bored because the coursework wasn't challenging enough. Do some research on some various careers and see which you want to do. Businesses love hiring engineering majors for non-engineering positions just because of the wide variety of problem solving and project management skills the degree comes with. How to check that nothing is missing from your checklist? from December 2011; to January 2012; last updated – posted 2012-Jan-4, 11:03 am AEST posted 2012-Jan-4, 11:03 am AEST User #304059 416 posts. i dont know if i am bored with engineering or if i am just bored with being a student, [–]Poodlesprout 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), Consulting/advisory at Big4 is way way more exciting, [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child), Honestly stay. [–]potatogunStartup Ops 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children). No questions related to university, school, major selection, GPA, coursework, etc. [–]Zouri 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Forum Regular reference: whrl.pl/Rc2glF. Right now I love it, yeah i did stick with engineering bc any course in anything else was kinda boring. The degree is hard, so is life. The reason for my switch is that Accounting has to be one of the most tedious and boring subjects to exist. Actually engineering and accounting are more related than you may think. No self-promotion or blogspam. I started out as a cs/accounting double major. That's fair. Though I admit it is usually vba, [–]potatoriotTax (US) 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children). [–]thingswithwings80 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). But you're correct in that both are in-demand fields, and if you're going to a semi-decent school and put a respectable amount of effort into it, you'll likely find a job in either. Great people, good at their jobs, not always the best at relating to non engineers. A lot of auditors from my old firm were engineers. Like others have mentioned, it's more learning methodologies and applying them, or memorization(tax). MIStructE Senior Structural Engineer London UK. I've done two years of Accounting at Uni here in the UK and am about to switch to Mechanical Engineering this September. There is very little maths in Accounting, and of that maths that exists, it's extremely basic (simple multiplication or division). Have never not had a job. Read http://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-you-shouldnt-hire-someone-from-harvard.html which summarizes Malcolm Gladwell's claim in his book David and Goliath which says that people just like you drop out of engineering when they're right at the finish line because they're comparing themselves with elite classmates, not with the broader world of work. I got three job offers recently, one in a big 4 accounting firm and two engineering (one utilities and one gas and oil). /r/Accounting's CPA review course recommendations - 2014, Accounting Coach - For Students, Small Business, & Bookkeepers. No questions on "how something works" — try r/AskEngineers. http://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-you-shouldnt-hire-someone-from-harvard.html. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. I am a highly critical person and don't take any risks, but whenever I have regretted a decision, it was because I quit/dropped something or asked for too much. There's certainly some very specialized areas of accounting that programming would benefit, but for the overwhelming majority it does not apply. I made this video to document my progress, and to teach people about machine learning through the lens of roller coaster design. Let’s examine these two paths: Nearly every company needs accountants (although they’re not typically in-house) and software engineers, so the demand is there for both professionals. I was looking very hard at Mechanical Engineering or Accounting. When I was job hunting I had a lot to choose from and get contacted by recruiters weekly. They are both solid career paths with lots of opportunity. For example what percent of people do they think about when making a chair, staircase or a car. I became extremely depressed and my grades suffered. Apart from that, these two careers are quite different. I'll also add the caveat that without the CPA License accounting is a secure dead end job that pays crap. Do you know what languages benefitted them at that level? [–]dehrmann 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child). In addition to developing basic accounting and computer skills, the program includes courses in general business practices. Lower ceilings on pay though, unless they go into management. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: If you see any post or comment that violates these rules, please report it so the moderators can respond in a timely manner. Am I the only one who does this? This includes business solicitations and advertisements, referrals and job postings. I feel like I should chime in, since I switched from Engineering to Accounting. A lot of engineers go into stuff that doesn't require the solving of problems that you do in school. If this is how you're choosing what to major in, stop. But if you're looking for advice, an engineering degree can get you into a wider variety of jobs than a finance one IMO. So going into whatever you enjoy more is advisable. The pay was awesome (like engineering) compared to a corporate accountant, but during busy season she would literally work at the office until 11pm and have to be back by 8-9am. [–]vishtratworkHedge Fund CFpOtato 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children), [–]Awnyxx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). & I think what the OP is getting at, is that public accounting salaries are, relatively low, when compared with starting salaries elsewhere, especially when you factor in the number of hours you will be working (ex: the top engineering and computer science students at your school will probably easily be making double what the top accounting … the fact that it is hard does make it worse. Accounting(Audit): Able to meet with different clients and work in both small and large teams in a dynamic environment. … I cant really say that i have a real passion for engineering i think it was the idea of learning that kept me in it for this long. I know it sounds weird but you chang actually change it to what you want it to be and then your life will follow. [–]potatoriotTax (US) 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (10 children). Yeah, don't put me with Quality please. People searching for Civil Engineer vs. Electrical Engineer found the following information and resources relevant and helpful. After I switched to industry, I work 60 hours for about 4 weeks out of the year. The time and effort required to get an Engineering degree vs the time and effort required to get an Accounting one (even including a Masters) and a CPA as well... Of course I dont know how the average work hours of Engineers compare to that of Accountants. Take a class on accounting, engineering, computer science, physics, any area that you might be interested in but have not really taken. I meant on the spectrum of engineering there's a more pure side I.E. Software Engineering Vs … You are allowed one submission, and you must be active in the comments to answer any questions. I became so depressed with my workload and struggling with the work that half way through the semester my doctor put me on depression meds to try and get me through the rest of the semester. If it doesn't interest you, and the depression makes me think that's the case, it's not going to get better, and I'd look elsewhere for a career. You don't necessarily have to do real engineering etc, that's left to the PhDs. Not like you can breeze through. I've seen many 40 year old accounts payable supervisors making a less than $50k a year. Ask yourself whether your issue with engineering is because it's hard or because it doesn't interest you. I think you should stick with your current degree path, and do an internship anywhere you can so you get to experience it in the real world. Also, have you thought about the possibility that your depression is affecting your desire to complete your education? I dont really see myself going back and finishing engineering right now. Whatever you do, dont choose your major based on how your college life is going to be. I finally understood that anything else engineering is way more boring. I was just asking this question out of curiosity. Up until recently I hadn't given much thought to finance but speaking … If it's just hard, I'd agree with everyone here and tell you to persevere. An engineering degree is also significantly more difficult than an accounting one. I had an internal struggle like your's, but in reverse. The education is necessary to reach the fun part. 2) Avoid most self-promotion, advertising, or solicitation. Overly insulting or crass comments will be removed. [–]lezariumMEMS 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). The accountants I knew at my undergrad all got 150 credits in 4 or 4.5 years and got their CPA license with a bachelor's. My opinion is that you should push straight ahead and destroy the rest of the curriculum. You have made it, you have made it through the hardest parts of a very valuable degree. I'm an accountant and have never had an issue finding a job. In general, much less is expected of engineers in soft skills. Reddit communities reflect how varied, sprawling and ever-changing we are as a society, and as people. And it won't be easier just by changing majors. An MBA is one of the most popular degrees in today's higher education landscape and often incorporates basic accounting knowledge into the curriculum. Big 4/Smaller firm/private all are options. Here is my 2 cents on why I chose Accounting of Engineering. Your only 18, and have a lot of time. by Jack123. He is now a successful chartered accountant and send very happy with his decision. I got chills when we launched that thing. that being said you can FO if you dont like it read something else. You're on the right track. I've found that nothing helps a down-funk more than finishing what I've started. Accounting sucks anyway. A degree has a course structure made up of core accounting subjects together with other relevant electives such as management, marketing, finance … im not sure if engineering is my problem or if i am just bored with the constant studying and just being a student in a demanding program, [–]ligga4nifeElectrical 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (8 children). You have to think about why you decided on engineering in the first place (I loved outer space and wanted to work for NASA). You can take that degree a million directions. A CPA at a public firm will work 60-100 hours per week during the first quarter of the year. I have a friend who did exactly this. show 10 more Finance vs Engineering for Investment Banking Profile evaluation Masters in Chem Eng : MEng at Surrey or MSc at Imperial? If you find that what you are doing is not enjoying, there are tons of other opportunities available with an Accounting degree that would land you in a number of front office/high end jobs. Everyone needs soft skills. I work for an engineering company, and, while I still work mainly in Excel and Powerpoint and do quantitative research and analysis like a finance guy, I at least get to hold physical parts in my hand, and visit factories (the best part). Me during the first week of my internship, learning the 57th new thing they didn’t teach me in school. To best understand the differences between these two types of programs, we'll explore each of them in depth. I've worked on both sides, R&D always feels so entitled and over important. Trust me, I'm an engineer. If you're not sure, take some time away from school to work or do some real thinking about what you would like to do. Keep the discussion civil. [–]johnfbw 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child), Programming is almost a must as a system accountant. 4 years for BE in engineering + 4 or 2 years for accounting ,I think that was waste of money&time. You'd be amazed how some of my classmates are lacking in social skills. Engineering vs Accounting? Accounting and finance degrees are two of the more popular options for students who would like to work in business finance and who have high hopes of earning an above average income out of school. Engineering: You go where the jobs are. The starting salary is going to suck; A few years in and you'll be golden. Please seek appropriate professional advice for tax-related matters. [–]kpossible0889 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). The anonymous commenter goes on to critique Amazon's work-life balance, complicated stock offerings, and performance-review process. No misleading or sensationalized titles. Yes, upper management of a company can be segued from a financial and accounting background, especially if they were doing the audit or tax work for that company before transitioning. It can go up a lot from there, though. I would also ask the accounting sub reddit for their opinion. It's really annoying, it takes the whole company to make the product, not just them. College is only going to last a couple years, your career will probably last for several decades. Also engineers and sciency people seemed to make up most of the advisory positions. I made a choice, and kept with it even after learning the math in accounting is not very hard. [–]BurkasaurusBiomedical/Process Engineering 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children). Likewise, accountants can earn between $39,000 and $109,000 per year. The type of job and where that job can take you are drastically different in Accounting and Engineering though. The rest of the time, I work 35-40 hours a week. I had a similar dilemma when I started college. Find your future faster and see if a degree in accounting & computer science is right for you. The pay was awesome (like engineering) compared to a corporate accountant, but during busy season she would literally work at the office until 11pm and have to be back by 8-9am. How it feels to be the Subject Matter Expert. Learn to provide entry-level accounting support, including accounting and computer skills. Pursue engineering because you desire to for more than a job that's more on demand than accounting. R&D and design on the left and on the far right is phone support. GPA is going to matter a lot in both, so go with the field you're stronger in. the fact that it is hard just makes me more stressed bc im not sure if it will be worth it for me. Can also easily switch cities at any point in your career, so long as you are not doing this every couple of years. (self.engineering). I don't see myself as an engineer either, but I know that the possibilities are endless once I have that degree. In fact most of the engineers in my company are in quality and production with some manufacturing. Go to job fairs, but concentrate on non-engineering companies - you want to build a wider horizon now. Depends where you are and what's around you. Engineers tend to make a bit more on average. Have you done any research on accounting and see what the average accountant does everyday? Accounting (Audit): Able to meet with different clients and work in both small and large teams in a dynamic environment. Do engineers have a harder time at finding internships/jobs than accountants? CPA License holders also have some government protection since a CPA license is required for certain jobs in Corporate America. i have applied to a few internships but its hard to get one without a good gpa...3.0 at least and mine is 2.3...again thats why i dont think im good enough at it, [–]Neb0tron 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children). Get counseling. But Accounting on average requires more. [–]delvecchi088[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Consider the future you, 10 years from now would regret your decision? I've heard that finance people are paid about the same as engineers. Machines and Mechanisms didnt go well either. I'm trying to build an A.I. do you like accounting, or do you like engineering? I'd say that's easier to manage than going to the same company's networking events multiple times without appearing like the awkward 21 year old all 21 year olds are. [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children). i wasnt whining about how hard is im just not sure if i am doing all this work for something im not going to be happy with. Your choice! [–]Adoxo_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). I think it would be good for me to give my two cents here. In this section, we will discuss the perspective of these two careers so that you can get a glimpse of what to expect from each of them.Ask any businessman, who they depend upon mo… Hi, Long time stalker, first time poster. program that can generate roller coaster layouts using a genetic algorithm. Just keep at it. Keep disagreements polite. They know the industry better then anyone here. All workplace topics and questions asking for career advice must go into the Weekly Career Discussion Thread. 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